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Time Nuts

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Time-Nuts is a mailing list for enthusiasts interested in precise time and frequency, covering topics like quartz oscillator stability, atomic clock measurements, and long-term comparisons using WWVB, Loran-C, and GPS. It includes hams and electronics hobbyists sharing expertise and resources. Joining is recommended for enthusiasts of precise time and frequency or those with the "time bug." The group has a rich history dating back to 2001.

Key points

  • Time-Nuts is a mailing list for enthusiasts interested in precise time and frequency.: Time-Nuts is a mailing list for enthusiasts interested in precise time and frequency.
  • It covers topics like quartz oscillator stability, atomic clock measurements, and long-te…: It covers topics like quartz oscillator stability, atomic clock measurements, and long-term comparisons using WWVB, Loran-C, and GPS.
  • The group includes hams and electronics hobbyists sharing expertise and resources.: The group includes hams and electronics hobbyists sharing expertise and resources.

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Time-Nuts -- Precise Time and Frequency for Amateurs

Description

Time-Nuts™ is a mailing list for amateurs who are interested in

precise Time & Frequency. Topics include stability of quartz oscillators,

measurements of rubidium and cesium atomic clocks, using WWVB, Loran-C, and GPS

for long-term comparisons.

Most of the members are hams or electronics hobbyists. Topics also include

acquisition, repair, and operation of surplus electronic instruments related to precise time;

nanoseconds; picoseconds; results of homebrew hardware and software T&F

projects, etc.

Please join if you have questions or expertise to add to the group.

Getting Started with Amateur Time & Frequency

If you have an interest in precise time & frequency or are

getting the "time bug" here are

some suggestions:

- Join the time-nuts mailing list.

- Ask questions; do experiments; share your results.

- Get a feel for the instruments and test equipment used in this field. Search eBay for

words like: cesium, rubidium, quartz oscillator, frequency counter,

frequency standard, phase comparator, 1pps, etc.

- Look for surplus electronics by companies like: Austron, Bliley, BNC (Berkeley Nucleonics

Corp), Datum, Efratom,

FEI (Frequency Electronics Inc), FTS (Frequency & Time Systems), GenRad

(General Radio), HP (Hewlett-Packard)/Agilent, Kinemetrics, Odetics,

Oscillatek, Oscilloquartz, Ovenaire, Quartzlock, Spectracom, SRS (Stanford

Research Systems), Sulzer, Symmetricom, Temex, Tracor, Trak, Truetime,

Vectron, Wenzel, Zyfer

- Visit amateur Time & Frequency web sites:

- LeapSecond.com (Tom Van Baak)

- www.niceties.com/time.html (Doug Hogarth)

- prc68.com/I/timefreq.shtml (Brooke Clarke)

- www.febo.com/time-freq (John Ackermann)

- www.rt66.com/~shera (Brooks Shera)

- www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/PRECISION (Murry Greenman)

- www.thegleam.com/ke5fx (John Miles)

- www.ko4bb.com/Timing (Didier Juges)

- phk.freebsd.dk/hacks (Poul-Henning Kamp)

- www.efos3.com (Ole Petter Ronningen) "Time-nuttery 101"

- Find op/svc manuals: KO4BB's Manuals Repository

- See Didier's wiki: KO4BB Wiki Home Page

- Study John Vig's Introduction to Quartz Frequency Standards

- alternate location to John Vig Tutorial if ieee.org is broken:

Vig-tutorial8.5.6.3-Oct2014.ppt

- Read some T&F books: www.LeapSecond.com/pages/books

- Have a quick look at the

NIST Time and Frequency from A to Z - Glossary

- Read anything Bill Riley has written Hamilton Technical Services

- Read papers, presentations, books by Enrico Rubiola Enrico Rubiola Publications

- Browse NIST Time and Frequency Publication

Database

- See the WIRED magazine article on

Time Hackers

and

(photos)

- Enjoy historical information at Frequency

Control History

- Find app notes at commercial T&F sites:

CNS

GPStime

Symmetricom

TSC

CTS

- See government laboratory sites:

NIST USNO NPL

PTB JPL

NRC IEN

ITU BIPM

IERS EFTF PTTI FCS

Searching the archives

The Time-Nuts mailing list archive is located at:

http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com.

Most users simply use google to search the archives; do this by adding site:febo.com to your search word(s).

History of Time-Nuts

In the pre-web 1990s Tom Clark set up a gps-timing mailing list at NASA for those

interested in his pioneering work with the Motorola Oncore-series GPS

receiver. That list was an inspirational example of one man freely sharing a

wealth of experience and information with a group of interested GPS timing

newbies. The list was specific to his home-brew TAC hardware (now TAC-2)

and SHOWTIME software (now TAC32).

The list moved to TACGPS

and is still around but quiet (now hosted by TAPR).

However, there were other precise time & frequency topics not covered by tacgps.

Over the years several of us —

tvb, DougH, StanP, CorbyD, JohnA, BrookeC —

were exchanging private emails that I thought deserved wider audience, participation, and archiving.

So in 2001 time-nuts began.

It was once

cesium-nuts at Yahoo, then

time-nuts here at LeapSecond.com, then

John Ackermann graciously offered to administer and host it on his site so that's where it is today.

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